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Trevor
post Oct 21 2008, 08:19 PM
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Our 06 Passat arrived home tonight with this problem:

Tuesday,21,October,2008,21:16:57:40933
VCDS Version: Release 805.0

Address 53: Parking Brake
Control Module Part Number: 3C0 907 801 B
Component and/or Version: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
Software Coding: 0000011
Work Shop Code: WSC 00028
Fault Codes have been Erased

1 Fault Found:
02443 - Control Head
008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Mileage: 55744 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:32:09

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 14.29 V
Count: 46


Can't get it to clear. Any ideas?


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Ray
post Oct 21 2008, 08:26 PM
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Probably of no use to you but i hired a passat in cyprus last christmas , it locked up the handbrake when i stopped and would not release it. I disconnected the battery for 20 mins and it was fine after that but didnt have it scanned to see if the fault codes were cleared for obvious reasons
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post Oct 21 2008, 08:29 PM
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Thanks Ray. Just onto EoinO from Ardfallen Motors. He told me do the same. So going to disconnect it now and see.


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post Oct 21 2008, 08:33 PM
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Disconnect it and hold the terminals together for about 30 seconds.

After that I'd be all out of ideas I know nothing about the new shape Passats (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Oct 21 2008, 09:21 PM
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Left the battery disconnected for 30 minutes. Reconnected and the light were still on the dash flashing.

After about 30 seconds they went off but then got another couple of lights.

Parking brake was now functioning but the ESP was showing as off and could not switch it back on.

Scanned it again.

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-095.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 614 095 P HW: 3C0 614 095 P
Component: ESP 440 C2 H015 0003
Revision: H015 Serial number: 0667156106
Coding: 0013569
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation


Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5 D06 1701
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -

Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 3C0-907-801-53.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 907 801 B HW: 3C0 907 801 B
Component: EPB VC8HC001 013 0001
Revision: 013
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001

4 Faults Found:
02429 - Right Parking Brake Motor (V283) Clamping Force Not Reached
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110010
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 27
Mileage: 55776 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:14

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 8.90 V
Count: 205

02428 - Left Parking Brake Motor (V282) Clamping Force Not Reached
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110010
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 27
Mileage: 55776 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:14

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 8.90 V
Count: 204

01487 - System Function Test
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 27
Mileage: 55776 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:14

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.90 V
Count: 160

02443 - Control Head
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 27
Mileage: 55744 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:32:09

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 14.29 V
Count: 46


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post Oct 21 2008, 09:25 PM
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COuld the rear pads be worn to far and the brakes not getting enough bind as far as the ECU is concerned Trevor ?

Theres a process to reset the park brake settings after inserting new pads - might be worth running to reset pad position ?

That right to drive module is going to be a right pain in the arse.


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post Oct 21 2008, 09:27 PM
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Ok went for a quick spin and lights gone out.

Going to scan it again.


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post Oct 21 2008, 09:41 PM
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OK all fine.

So the solution for those of you with Passat handbrake problems is to disconnect the battery for 20-30 minutes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thanks for the suggestions/help.


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post Oct 21 2008, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (Declan @ Oct 21 2008, 10:25 PM) *
COuld the rear pads be worn to far and the brakes not getting enough bind as far as the ECU is concerned Trevor ?

Theres a process to reset the park brake settings after inserting new pads - might be worth running to reset pad position ?

That right to drive module is going to be a right pain in the arse.


Plenty of meat on the pads Declan.


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post Oct 21 2008, 09:59 PM
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Buy a 3BG Trevor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Good that it's all sorted
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post Oct 21 2008, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (Ray @ Oct 21 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Buy a 3BG Trevor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Good that it's all sorted



Hi Trevor,
Sorry to burst your bubble but you have not seen the last of your problems.
This is a common problem.
Only fix is a software update and new Park brake switch.

You will possibly get it under warranty. If not it is one hour labour.
Call Ken in Blackwater motors. He will look after you and if it can be done under warranty he will do it.
I have seen 5 passats with this issue this year.
Very easy to get the light off and codes cleared but they return always without the updated firmware.
Best regards
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post Oct 22 2008, 07:48 AM
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Thanks JK.

Yeah I realise that I only sorted the issue not the problem.

Ardfallen did mention a new switch may be needed so I'll follow up with VW and see can I get it and the firmware update done under "goodwill".

First time it happened in 2 1/2 years. Actually car has been troublefree up to now.


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post Oct 22 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Trevor @ Oct 22 2008, 08:48 AM) *
Thanks JK.

Yeah I realise that I only sorted the issue not the problem.

Ardfallen did mention a new switch may be needed so I'll follow up with VW and see can I get it and the firmware update done under "goodwill".

First time it happened in 2 1/2 years. Actually car has been troublefree up to now.



Hi Trevor.
Strangely It seems to be affect them now.
Make sure that they do not charge you over the hour as the last few I have sent in to Blackwater thats what it has taken but as I said they have covered a few under warranty.
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post Jan 22 2009, 03:29 PM
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Well we had this problem again yesterday.

I made enquiries locally and was quoted 600 to fix by a main VW service agent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Gave Ken @Blackwater a ring. About 95 euro he said which includes a new switch and firmware upgrade. Thanks JK.


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post Jan 22 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Trevor @ Jan 22 2009, 03:29 PM) *
I made enquiries locally and was quoted 600 to fix by a main VW service agent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Gave Ken @Blackwater a ring. About 95 euro he said which includes a new switch and firmware upgrade. Thanks JK.


505 difference, jeasus........ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


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post Jan 22 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Trevor @ Jan 22 2009, 03:29 PM) *
Well we had this problem again yesterday.

I made enquiries locally and was quoted 600 to fix by a main VW service agent (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Gave Ken @Blackwater a ring. About 95 euro he said which includes a new switch and firmware upgrade. Thanks JK.



Ken is always very helpful for this kind of stuff .

Would the other garage be the one that has my surname ?
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post Jan 22 2009, 04:33 PM
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Theres's hardly a garage called "The langer" motors is there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Jan 22 2009, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (Declan @ Jan 22 2009, 04:33 PM) *


You would be surprised what we have in" Dirty mullah farmer" yards down here ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 22 2009, 06:42 PM
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handbrake switch is a very common problem on the new passats.
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post Jan 22 2009, 08:12 PM
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No its an authorised VW repair and service centre (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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